Ohio Governors Cup Regatta

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Saturday, April 24, 2010
1 2:20 PM Boys Ltwt 4+
18
    Anthony Wayne High School Crew Club (A)
A. Patterson/J. Maurer/E. LaHote/T. Hoyt/S. Kookoothe (Cox)
 
    Canisius High School (A)
C. Mangan/K. Kostrzewski/A. Karas/O. Ogiony/K. Tompkins (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
J. Miller/J. Woodall/M. Workman/D. Bellman/M. Sharp (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
C. Wagner/E. Garbon/D. Weber/E. Swank/I. Powers (Cox)
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (A)
T. Foglia/R. Shymansky/J. Good/A. Todd/M. Sparta (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (A)
J. Geiger/R. Naylor/N. Decker/I. Borczon/M. Phelps (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
B. Brant/J. Rectenwald/M. Durbiano/C. Lennon/M. Wilson (Cox)
 
    St. Ignatius Wildcat Rowing (A)
J. Bruening/M. Pyrtko/J. Mathews/T. Stopper/M. Gemperline (Cox)
 
    St. Joseph's Collegiate Institute (A)
Z. Connerton/T. Heubusch/T. Evangelista/Z. Schaab/M. Coughlin (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (A)
D. Lawrence/T. Lagnese/D. Abbott/E. Adelman/M. Frishkorn (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
E. Bleich/D. Barthelmas/N. Bergen/E. Byrd/S. Westfall (Cox)
 
    Upper St. Clair Rowing Association (A)
B. Gallagher/P. Austin/P. VanRyzin/F. Perryman/T. Lazur (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
D. Caspers/N. Cimperman/A. Kurvink/M. Hughes/A. Davis (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (B)
A. Olson/A. Miller/B. Schutte/M. Wetherell/T. Bode (Cox)
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (B)
A. Altman/C. Genser/V. Patel/J. Segal/E. Diamond (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (B)
E. McQuiston/A. Ficerai/J. Lennon/S. Kurtz/E. Craig (Cox)
 
    St. Ignatius Wildcat Rowing (B)
A. Kershaw/T. Brzozowski/L. Backus/A. Jurcisin/D. Martin (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (B)
J. Lucas/G. Mohar/R. Sutliff/N. Villaveces/K. Heppner (Cox)
 
2 2:30 PM Girls 1st Varsity 8+
18
3 2:40 PM Boys Novice 4+
23
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
B. Basham/J. Bauer/B. Cahalin/T. Dilenschnieder/M. Clingman (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
K. McCarthy/K. Eghbalnia/J. Groh/S. Bertele/C. Shoemaker (Cox)
 
    Dayton Boat Club (A)
P. Stroke/S. Three/P. Two/S. Bow/B. B (Cox)
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (A)
M. Gostowski/A. Kemp/M. Klug/J. Eicher/I. Cullen (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (A)
R. Allen/S. Leise/N. Eulano/S. Cross/C. Prischak (Cox)
 
    Mt. Lebanon High School Crew Club (A)
D. Richardson/J. Ohrman/Z. Kimball/J. Mandros/C. Larkin (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
N. Neugebauer/X. Herold/Z. MILKEY/S. Sheridan/N. Rotunno (Cox)
 
    St. Ignatius Wildcat Rowing (A)
A. Reichard/J. Tanis/R. Turcotte/D. Drees/T. Wimbiscus (Cox)
 
    St. Joseph's Collegiate Institute (A)
M. Kelly/M. McDermott/D. Evangelista/D. Hays/M. Terranova (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (A)
T. McNamara/D. Redzanic/L. Nypaver/P. Meier/R. McGowan (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
F. Atkinson/G. Brown/A. Cartmille/B. Curran/N. Anderson (Cox)
 
    Upper St. Clair Rowing Association (A)
W. Aloe/A. Belack/J. Carson/A. Puccetti/E. Garfinkel (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
T. Lee/S. Fisher/C. Ciotola/Z. Gammon/T. Akin (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (B)
G. Fillman/S. Grisvard/M. Leaver/J. Marshall/K. Fowler (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (B)
C. Tilden/P. Schneider/C. Muething/C. Thompson/T. Kratzer (Cox)
 
    St. Ignatius Wildcat Rowing (B)
T. Larson/P. Rogers/A. Barni/E. Jenkins/J. Thomas (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (B)
A. Davis/N. Abbott/J. Hockenberry/N. Jackson/K. Smrekar (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (B)
J. Cantwell/L. Kirkpatrick/N. Hughes/A. Dougherty/V. Kamisetty (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (B)
C. Moran/R. Chin/W. Kelly/A. Wright/C. Burke (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (C)
D. Chen/N. Bailey/S. Huxel/M. Wrolstad/B. Kallmeyer (Cox)
 
    St. Ignatius Wildcat Rowing (C)
C. Grove/C. Kiplinger/D. Shea/S. Fenner/M. Priore (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (C)
J. Kujawinski/M. Kreps/B. Cooper/J. Moulton/K. Smrekar (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (C)
B. Weilbacher/R. Kesselring/M. Caspers/P. Lecorgne/A. Davis (Cox)
 
4 2:50 PM Girls 2nd Varsity 8+
10
5 3:00 PM Girls 2nd Novice 8+
4
6 3:10 PM Boys 2x
13
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
J. Miller/J. Woodall
 
    Dayton Boat Club (A)
B. Sculler1/S. Sculler2
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (A)
R. Deffet/J. Key
 
    Hawken School (A)
B. whitehead/G. Whitehead
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
S. Genise/Z. Petronic
 
    Ohio Valley Rowing Club (A)
A. Collins/R. Pritchard
 
    West Side Rowing Club (A)
Z. Harris/S. McDonald
 
    Dayton Boat Club (B)
S. Sculler1/B. Sculler2
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (B)
T. Lipowicz/A. Caswell
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (B)
K. Schoffstall/E. Solic
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (C)
K. Robbins/T. Maschino
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (D)
A. Sobol/A. Chapman
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (E)
A. Edwards/J. Hull
 
7 3:20 PM Boys 1st Varsity 4+
18
8 3:30 PM Girls 1st Novice 8+
12
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
L. Mitchell/S. Pfeifer/M. Postlewaite/R. Turner/M. Zemper/S. Asad/M. Duckworth/S. Casey/K. Shilling (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
L. Brown/K. Smith/E. Bradford/M. Price/J. Geise/K. Rajagopal/G. Kroner/E. Westerfield/H. Tzeghai (Cox)
 
    Dayton Boat Club (A)
O. Stroke/S. Seven/P. Six/B. Five/O. Four/S. Three/P. Two/S. Bow/A. Cox (Cox)
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (A)
S. Monahan/M. Bell/J. Kaplan/N. Appasamy/A. DiMatteo/M. Root/S. Burns/G. Sims/K. Power (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (A)
E. Kulesza/M. Sennett/E. Hill/E. Engott/J. Skonieczka/N. Sennett/M. Rula/M. Cavanaugh/C. Prischak (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
S. Lamanna/S. Davis/C. Ferguson/M. Sekinger/A. Bostedo/S. Plut/R. Caruso/K. Williams/L. Macaluso (Cox)
 
    Notre Dame Academy Crew (A)
M. Miller/E. Held/E. Smith/C. Dane/J. Marlow/K. Tafelski/L. Shrader/M. Popil/A. Eades (Cox)
 
    Our Lady of Mercy High School (Rochester, NY) (A)
C. Hetzler/E. Virgil/A. Domagola/E. Peartree/B. Holvey/G. Winters/M. Miller/C. Romano/J. Minges (Cox)
 
    St. Ursula Academy Crew (A)
A. Sheehan/S. Vermeulen/B. Less/L. McCormick/E. Win/G. Mancy/A. Rudolph/K. Winchester/E. Vermeulen (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (A)
C. Michaels/H. Meier/P. Puyana/D. Roger/M. Torrance/S. Bunde/S. Kelly/A. Glynn/K. Smrekar (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
C. Bitzer/C. Capuano/N. Hannaway/A. Holden/A. Hummel/O. Miltner/M. Ogle/A. Robinson/C. Jones (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
k. burkley/A. Ashbaugh/S. Bastian/G. Busick/K. Cantrell/T. Gainey/J. Hays/J. kurvink/R. Snyder (Cox)
 
9 3:40 PM Boys 2nd Varsity 4+
15
10 3:50 PM Girls Ltwt 8+
4
11 4:00 PM Boys 2nd Novice 8+
8
12 4:10 PM Girls 2x
13
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
K. Bauer/M. Flower
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (A)
N. Louchouarn/S. Meinert
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (A)
A. Scott/K. Scott
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
E. Duursma/S. Sharpnack
 
    Our Lady of Mercy High School (Rochester, NY) (A)
B. Sulenski/S. Sevenler
 
    Shaker Heights High School Crew (A)
H. Gemerchak/C. Murphy
 
    West Side Rowing Club (A)
S. Miller/M. McDonnell
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (B)
S. Stafford/L. Tharp
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (B)
M. Crammond/J. Milkey
 
    Shaker Heights High School Crew (B)
K. Hornick/R. Jensen
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (C)
M. O'Brien/R. Hock
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (D)
A. Trick/C. Korte
 
    Greater Dayton Rowing Association (E)
K. Short/A. Simpkins
 
13 4:20 PM Girls 1st Varsity 4+
18
    Brighton Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
J. Heyer/C. Kaiser/E. Garth/E. Rayter/B. Williams (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
K. King/S. Casey/O. Gugliemotto/M. Zemper/A. Marsh (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
B. Naylor/G. Stoehr/G. Olscamp/A. Luber/A. St. Martin (Cox)
 
    Dayton Boat Club (A)
A. Bow/B. Two/O. Three/B. Four/A. Cox (Cox)
 
    Holy Angels Academy (A)
A. Eagen/M. Beinhauer/J. Leising/J. Griebner/L. Dines (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (A)
M. Brzozowski/A. Kleckner/C. Haller/S. Allshouse/A. Kimmel (Cox)
 
    Mt. Lebanon High School Crew Club (A)
C. Saunders/C. Riccelli/A. Sweeney/A. Grandinetti/A. Ketchum (Cox)
 
    Nardin Academy Crew (A)
L. Rutowski/K. Mahoney/C. Maisano/A. Dikeman/K. Ciminelli (Cox)
 
    Nichols School (A)
B. Daly/I. Lund/J. Herskind/S. Nachreiner/K. Oak (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
M. Treser/K. Gilmour/A. Gunn/L. Vespoli/N. Rotunno (Cox)
 
    Notre Dame Academy Crew (A)
J. Jacobs/M. Eddingfield/C. Sprague-Manrow/M. Georgoff/K. Lach (Cox)
 
    Our Lady of Mercy High School (Rochester, NY) (A)
E. Keller/L. Eyerman/C. Peartree/L. Poudrier/E. Chisholm (Cox)
 
    St. Ursula Academy Crew (A)
E. Kortier/P. Myers/E. Sheehan/M. Peatee/E. Smith (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (A)
A. Palmer/S. Trovato/K. Trovato/H. Spittel/S. Potter (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
Z. Ribar/E. Bergdoll/B. Ewart/L. Hall/S. Hammel (Cox)
 
    Upper St. Clair Rowing Association (A)
L. Altherr/M. Wholey/M. Bowman/Z. Rieder/T. Lazur (Cox)
 
    West Side Rowing Club (A)
R. hirschbeck/S. Green/K. Solowski/E. Frank/A. Giancola (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
E. Hughes/K. Moran/A. Bauer/A. Lind/M. Cimperman (Cox)
 
14 4:30 PM Boys Ltwt 8+
10
    Brighton Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
R. Emerson/K. Graves/C. VanDemark/R. Cholmondeley/N. Pegoli/J. Roman/M. Carletta/D. DiPaola/E. Pollock (Cox)
 
    Canisius High School (A)
C. Mangan/L. Moffett/W. Downing/T. Tobias/A. Karas/K. Kostrzewski/E. Ogiony/K. Larkin/K. Tompkins (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
J. Miller/J. Woodall/M. Workman/T. Dilenschnieder/M. Clingman/t. Savoie/C. Miller/D. Bellman/D. Figliuolo (Cox)
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (A)
T. Foglia/A. Todd/B. Gould/A. Pihl/J. Power/C. Genser/J. Good/J. Sparta/M. Sparta (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
J. Rectenwald/S. Genise/B. Brant/A. Ficerai/J. Lennon/E. McQuiston/M. Durbiano/C. Lennon/M. Wilson (Cox)
 
    St. Ignatius Wildcat Rowing (A)
J. Bruening/T. Stopper/J. Mathews/M. Pyrtko/A. Kershaw/T. Brzozowski/M. March/A. Jurcisin/M. Gemperline (Cox)
 
    St. Joseph's Collegiate Institute (A)
Z. Connerton/T. Evangelista/D. Hayden/T. Heubusch/C. Schaab/R. Izzo/A. Kuch/Z. Schaab/M. Coughlin (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
E. Bleich/T. Thompson/N. Bergen/D. Stroh/L. Ward/E. Byrd/F. Kexel/D. Barthelmas/S. Westfall (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
N. Cimperman/D. Caspers/M. Hughes/A. Kurvink/J. Lucas/G. Mohar/R. Sutliff/N. Villaveces/K. Heppner (Cox)
 
    Canisius High School (B)
J. Zawodzinski/J. Crossman/P. Mangan/R. Bartels/S. Ezquerro/J. Crimmen/G. Knoll/C. McKernon/M. Haar (Cox)
 
15 4:40 PM Boys 1st Novice 8+
11
16 4:50 PM Girls 2nd Varsity 4+
23
    Anthony Wayne High School Crew Club (A)
K. Hatker/K. Martin/M. Reyes/K. Betz/A. Patterson (Cox)
 
    Brighton Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
M. Metzger/N. Aaaaaa/K. Drugas/S. Parasnis-Samar/I. Majumdar (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
M. Duckworth/B. Mehl/J. Vellky/M. Hake/S. Asad (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
J. Lindner/S. Berman/K. Schmidt/M. O'Brien/A. Chin (Cox)
 
    Dayton Boat Club (A)
S. B/T. B/T. B/B. B/C. B (Cox)
 
    Hilliard Rowing Association (A)
M. McCartt/E. Brooks/T. Jones/S. Schmucker/M. Dawes (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (A)
A. Kleckner/A. Mazzocchi/E. Ott/C. Haller/K. Wagner (Cox)
 
    Mt. Lebanon High School Crew Club (A)
C. Saunders/C. Riccelli/A. Sweeney/S. Chatta/A. Ketchum (Cox)
 
    Nardin Academy Crew (A)
C. Harrington/K. Cirbus/D. Corr/K. Turner/H. Blum (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
L. Larocca/M. Duursma/E. Craig/M. Benson/L. Macaluso (Cox)
 
    Notre Dame Academy Crew (A)
S. Kobylak/L. Snell/L. Murrell/E. Mills/J. Yeager (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (A)
M. Amato/G. Lucia/N. Holman/A. Hockenberry/J. Ferris (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
S. Lau/A. Williams/C. Updegraff/A. Jennings/S. Hamburger (Cox)
 
    West Side Rowing Club (A)
J. Phillips/A. Truesdell/T. Gillespie/T. Yurko/E. Glasgow (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
A. Jennings/K. Sammons/K. Mitchell/A. Sawatzki/M. Scholz (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (B)
S. Brennan/A. Byrd/D. Summe/S. Farrar/K. Rolfes (Cox)
 
    Dayton Boat Club (B)
B. Stroke/B. Three/B. Two/B. Bow/B. Cox (Cox)
 
    Hilliard Rowing Association (B)
E. Assenheimer/K. Lunsford/A. Scurlock/E. Labordee/E. Shaeffer (Cox)
 
    Nardin Academy Crew (B)
C. Wincott/P. Tesmer/A. Boepple/K. Burke/C. Cumming (Cox)
 
    West Side Rowing Club (B)
B. Whalen/C. Kazmierczak/M. Rothschild/M. McDonnoll/K. Schneider (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (B)
T. Adelusola/L. Brown/B. Shields/A. Buck/M. Cimperman (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (C)
L. Brown/K. Smith/E. Bradford/M. Price/H. Tzeghai (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (C)
C. Ferguson/S. Plut/L. Bleyaert/C. Frazier/A. Bostedo (Cox)
 
17 5:00 PM Girls Novice 4+
29
    Anthony Wayne High School Crew Club (A)
P. Wesolowski/K. Betz/E. Helton/S. Sangal/S. Kookoothe (Cox)
 
    Brighton Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
Z. Bower/S. Ureles/T. McEvoy/A. DeVitto/K. Drugas (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (A)
S. Davis/K. Fowler/S. Goodman/B. Irelan/D. Figliuolo (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (A)
E. Westerfield/J. Geise/V. Currie/C. Petera/D. Chin (Cox)
 
    Dayton Boat Club (A)
S. B/T. B/T. B/B. B/C. B (Cox)
 
    Fox Chapel Crew, Inc. (A)
S. Monahan/M. Bell/J. Kaplan/A. DiMatteo/K. Power (Cox)
 
    Holy Angels Academy (A)
E. Shapiro/E. Gunn/A. Londono/M. Mele/K. Johnson (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (A)
E. Kulesza/E. Engott/E. Hill/M. Sennett/M. Cavanaugh (Cox)
 
    Mt. Lebanon High School Crew Club (A)
A. Watters/M. McCloskey/J. Thompson/N. Casella/C. Larkin (Cox)
 
    North Allegheny Rowing Association/ N. Allegheny H.S. (A)
S. Lamanna/M. Sekinger/S. Davis/K. Williams/N. Rotunno (Cox)
 
    Notre Dame Academy Crew (A)
M. Miller/E. Held/E. Smith/C. Dane/A. Eades (Cox)
 
    Ohio Valley Rowing Club (A)
M. Steed/A. Eddy/A. Grady/J. Artherhults/K. Taylor (Cox)
 
    Our Lady of Mercy High School (Rochester, NY) (A)
A. Palmer/A. Domagola/V. Morales/M. Appleby/J. Minges (Cox)
 
    Perrysburg Rowing Club (A)
A. Basham/A. Owens/S. Sieren/B. Timbrook/N. Parekh (Cox)
 
    St. Ursula Academy Crew (A)
A. Sheehan/L. McCormick/B. Less/S. Vermeulen/E. Vermeulen (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (A)
H. Meier/C. Michaels/D. Roger/P. Puyana/K. Smrekar (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (A)
S. Schmitt/S. Small/C. Capuano/A. Holden/C. Jones (Cox)
 
    Upper St. Clair Rowing Association (A)
S. Ambrose/E. Kennedy/M. Markee/H. Zatawski/K. Bellamy (Cox)
 
    West Side Rowing Club (A)
H. Dreher/C. Green/M. Smith/K. Moore/E. Brooks (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (A)
A. Ashbaugh/k. burkley/G. Busick/s. mudd/R. Snyder (Cox)
 
    Central Ohio Rowing (B)
M. Irelan/M. Levine/P. Meacham/L. Mehl/K. Shilling (Cox)
 
    Cincinnati Jr. Rowing Club, Inc. (B)
I. Said/M. Spaulding/T. Nans/J. Hargitt/H. Tzeghai (Cox)
 
    Mercyhurst Prep High School (B)
M. Rula/N. Norfolk/J. Skonieczka/N. Sennett/C. Prischak (Cox)
 
    St. Ursula Academy Crew (B)
J. Cetnar/J. Friesner/J. Genaro/A. Davies/S. Kanjuparamban (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (B)
A. Glynn/S. Bunde/M. Torrance/E. Fenton/R. McGowan (Cox)
 
    Upper Arlington Crew, Inc. (B)
S. Page/N. Hannaway/M. Steedman/A. Robinson/A. Pritchard (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (B)
K. Cantrell/T. Gainey/J. Hays/J. kurvink/M. Scholz (Cox)
 
    Three Rivers Rowing Association (C)
M. Faimann/S. Straka/C. Muse/E. Muse/W. Graff (Cox)
 
    Westerville Rowing Club (C)
J. Rawahneh/A. Poll/A. Polito/a. myer/A. Mercurio (Cox)
 
18 5:10 PM Boys 2nd Varsity 8+
8
19 5:20 PM Girls Ltwt 4+
18
20 5:30 PM Boys 1st Varsity 8+
15
*-Event times, if listed, are tentative and subject to change